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- Is homosexuality a perversion?
All depends on the meaning you give to the word perversion! The culture
influences human sexuality, and diverts its behaviors. The erotism would
be then a diversion of reproduction function, like gastronomy a perversion
of the food! All also depends on which point of view one is placed.
Judge by yourself, the catholic church distinguishes two types of homosexual
, the perverts, who live their tendency and the others who repress it
and live in absolute chastity… The second type deserving still
more than the first since it suffers more… On the psychological
level, the true perverts are people who use the others with an only
aim of satisfying their own vision of the world. One can be homosexual
without being perverse, perverse without being homosexual.
Homosexuality however was regarded a long time as vice,
a perversion, then a disease and today a state. At the time of Oscar
Wilde, British writer, to evoke homosexuality one used a periphrasis:
“the vice which does not dare to say its name”.
The English psychologist and sexologist
Havelock Ellis (1859-1939), author of
a famous bulky treaty in eight volumes, admits that he never has considered
homosexuality like a disease, but he specifies that the public was not
ready to consider it differently, and that it was perhaps a less evil.
In 1948, Alfred Kinsey,
American academic, publish a study on the sexual life of his contemporaries.
According to him, 10% of the male population would have had a homosexual
experience at one moment of its life. (see the scale of Kinsey in our
file about the bisexuality) This figure radically transform the perception
of the things, and people imagine now that there are homosexuals everywhere!
The senator Mac Carthy (who was probably an ashamed and frustrated homosexual)
associates homosexuality with Communism and designates them as underhand
and frightening enemies . However, in spite of repressions homosexuality
does finish being recognized, many celebrities “came out”
and proudly assume their state.

- Which definition
would give to fetishism?
When part of the body, or an
object which evokes it carry a love symbolic, and becomes essential
to the erotic activity, one speaks then about Fetishism. In his book
“l’enfance d’un chef”, Jean-Paul Sartre wrote: “All
can be object of sexual desire, a sewing machine, a test-tube, a horse,
a shoe.” Fetishism returns us to worship and adulation.
The
sexual fetishist transforms an object into an object of worship,
if this one is related to an erotic experiment. There are various degrees
in fetishism, that can go from a taste for certain accessories or an
erotic preference for part of the body, to a kind of addiction; consequently,
the sexual intercourse is not possible except in the fetish presence,
or even use the fetish like sexual partner…

What are the
main characteristics of fetishism?
Fetishism seems to give more importance to the object of its worship
than to the relation with the human being… If your partner adulates
your hair, and only it, that give the impression not to exist completely,
you feel to some extent parceled out, or reduced to the state of object…
Fetishism also returns us to childhood behaviors. The child is centered
on its own experiment, and live in a sort of border world, compared
to adults world. The “teddy bear” is a fetish, that symbolizes
an adult warm, loving and reassuring presence. The fetish makes it possible
to reduce the object of the attachment, which becomes thus easy to handle,
knowing that the beloved being can also indirectly generate fear: fear
of being unable to behave according to his requirements, fear of being
rejected, etc…

- We recently observed a fetishist “ liberation”
fetishist To be fetishistic is fashioned, fetishism is posted today
shameless in the newspapers, the street, in the fashion…What do
you think about this?
The fashion and tribes world in post modern societies use many fetishistic
codes. It is a question of marking its membership. However, we also
can see conformism in this fashionable passion. Indeed, only fetishisms
relating to objects with the mode are visible, and possess these fetishes
often requires big means: leather, shoes, beautiful linen, branded clothing.
Fashion loves fetishism for it strongly stimulates the desire to own
an object, preferably expensive, with powerful capacity of identification.
A fetishist of the floorcloth does not interest marketing and the massive
media use of fetishism comes to weaken its attractiveness . Fashion
shows a certain idea of fetishism reduced to some expressions carefully
selected. True fetishism is apart from these standards.

Is fetishism is necessarily
sexually connoted ?
Even if the sexual aspect is not directly explicit, fetishism appears
generally carrying a strong erotic dimension. Indeed, the fetishist
allots to various objects a real erotic value. The fetish then represents
a phantasm and a powerful stimulating sexual desire means.

Is homosexuality
a form of fetishism?
Fetishism can be present in
any erotic relationship , homosexual or not. Iiving one’s homosexuality
means to assume one’s erotic preference for people of the same
sex as oneself, if one could underline the narcissistic aspects of homosexuality,
that does not imply that the homosexual are because of that more fetishistic
than heterosexual or bisexual ones. Being fetishistic, consists in choosing
a “object” of the desire !
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Worship and adulation object: the body.
Here, clothes play a double role, first
they act as visual fetish for the partner, and as a feeling
one for the wearer.
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- Do you think that
there is a typically gay form of fetishism ? Which form of fetishism
is typically gay?
There is doubtless a “gay culture” with its codes, its values,
its icons. The gays can put in scene this culture very well besides
while going to the caricature if one judges of it on the “gay
pride” demonstrations . But between the intimate sphere of the
erotic relationship and the image of oneself which one shows, there
is an important shift. The worship of the body like body building, and
body art, are very frequent in the gays as in others. The fetishism
of the uniform, that of leather and the muscles belongs to the “gay”
culture, but one them also meet in the heterosexuals.
Clearly, gay culture should
not be reduced to these narrow minded point of vue...
http://www.media-g.net/
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Fascinating bodies of "Stadium
Gods"
This calendar is a rather explicit case
of body fetishism use.
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According to Freud
fetishism would be an exclusively heterosexual perversion, do you agree
with this thesis?
At the time of Freud, the concept of sexual perversion covered the majority
of practices different from the Judeo Christian standards for sexuality.
Thus, all that could have been related with the erotic pleasure was
quickly classified as perversion. Freud largely took as a starting point
the work of Alfred Binet (1857-1911) who put forward the importance
of the first erotic invested experience, which consequently becomes
a reference. It is also necessary to make the distinction between the
perversion which prohibits any other form of erotic expression, and
the fetishistic behaviors which stimulate the excitation but do not
exclude more traditional practices.

Is fetishism exclusively male? How do you explain that
men are prompter than women to adopt a fetishistic behavior?
According to Freud indeed, fetishism would be exclusively masculine
and would come to compensate the fear female sex discovered causes,
he writes: “Probably no male can escape to feel the terror of
castration when he sees the female genital. For which reasons this impression
led it some in becoming homosexual and others in self protecting by
the creation of a fetish, while the enormous majority overcomes this
fear that, certainly, we cannot say it.” This position must be
interpreted in its context ; today, the “gender studies”
that take place in the intellectual north American circles bring a different
lighting on the sex and the gender.
Question of sexuality levels
What it is also necessary to
know, it is that the men and the women
are not always located at the same level of sexuality and that could
explain the difference of their respective behaviors and in particular
regarding fetishism. While the men function on an instinctual and compulsive
level of sexuality, the women seek more relational fusion. The instinctual
level reflect a hormonal climate, the compulsive level seeks to satisfy
a need, it is the same step as in the masturbation. Many people do not
reach the relational level of sexuality, the sexual intercourse between
partners is only a form of masturbation. The desire can be started by
an image, a phantasm, but do not require an investment in love. The
relational level of sexuality brings into play feelings, its mechanism
is more complex, and requires a climate of love and confidence.

Do you think that fetishism
is better tolerate in the gay community than in heterosexual?
All depends on which fetishism… As long as one remains in relatively
conformist behaviors, and that partners are agreeing adults, fetishism
does not cause any problem. In a very general way, sex is with the mode,
it is necessary to be sexy and the society establishes criteria to identify
sex appeal. Everyone is concerned. A community represents a whole of
people who share certain features, tendency, ethnicity group, membership…
The homosexual ones were a long time constrained to hide, they thus
developed a particular sensitivity to defend their difference. From
this point of view, one can indeed think that it fetishism is more easily
accepted in the gays.

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for Calvin Klein, many homosexual references are explicit, both in bodies
postures and acessories.

Nowadays,
it seems easier to live one’s homosexuality than express fetishistic
desires?
If it is indeed easier “to come out” today in France, it
is far from being the case everywhere in the world, in many countries
the homosexual ones are not allowed to freely live their sexuality.
If on a side, the sex is merchadised with excess, other, hypocrisy reigns,
and there is a true sexual misery. People know very well that sexuality
in the real life is very different from the images that media widely
show. Many is satisfied with a relatively dull life sexual, in which
creativity does not take place. In such a context, one understands that
it can be difficult to express a fetishistic request. Who dares speech
of his fetishistic desires must overcome the fear of being rejected
or being considered as abnormal. Who receives the request fears to be
reduces to the status of object and not to be loved for himself, but
just to even serve as a pretext for sexual plays for which he does not
necessarily share his partner’s interest. .
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Brokeback
Mountain, (January 2006)directed by Ang Lee, describes two gays
who hide their painfully their love in a so correct psychosocial
environment . Is it really easy to come out? |

The uniform fetishism
is often supposed to be born in hardly homophobic professional environments,
is it true? Would the uniform fetishism be related to a sadomasochistic
phantasm?
It is an very largely widespread
idea indeed which undoubtedly comes from pitiless hunting to which were
delivered the British and American armies “to flush out”
the homosexual ones. It is indeed known of long date, that the homosexual
behaviors frequently happen between individuals of the same sex when
they are constrained to live all together, as it is the case in the
army, boarding schools, monasteries…

post card showing sailorsmen
dancing together
The uniforms exert
an intense erotic fascination on certain
people, men or women. The uniform represents the power, the force, the
imposing presence when it is about the costume of a soldier, a police
officer, of a fireman, even of an ecclesiastic. That is why it can cause
powerful stimulating sexual desire. But the uniform or the professional
clothes also allows to play of the roles: nurse, doctor, but also waitress
or schoolgirl. Wearing the uniform, the fetishist can then behave in
ways which he prohibits in the real life… There are as many fetishisms
as uniforms. So for a long time, the homosexuals were made fun as effeminate
men, that was not the case at all the times. Muscular bodies, uniforms,
exacerbated virility does not necessarily belong to homophobes environments,
quite to the contrary. Because it offers a means of transgression usual
social rules on an erotic mode, the fetishism of the uniform can be
a part of domination/submission phantasms, or of sadomasochism.


Which is the difference
between fetishism and sadomasochism?
In fetishism, it is an object or part of the body which causes the sexual
excitation. In sadomasochism they are feelings: like the pain, the constraint,
the immobilization, the sensory deprivation which leads to the sexual
excitation. There is certainly a share of fetishism in sadomasochism,
related on the accessories and the decorum, while in fetishism, it can
exist a share of submission to an idealized partner considered as a
goddess and represented by the fetish.
Now, it is a little simplistic to associate sadism and masochism. Let
us have a look at the origins, i.e. the character, DAF de Sade lived
most of his life in prison, and was regarded as a criminal. At the XXst
century, he has been rediscovered and the intellectuals allotted to
him of a reputation of revolutionist of the ideas, and a “Master”
of philosophical dispute… Sacher Masoch which gave its name to
the masochism was for its part a man integrated socially, married perfectly,
father of family, exerting a trade. he lived his erotic tendancies without
that making scandal.

Are the majority
of fetishisms dedicated to female body or to purely female accessories?
Does the male version exists also?
Of course, for example, the fetishism of the military uniform returns
more to the male body. Any part of the body or accessory can become
a fetish. The sociologist Francisco Alberoni in his book “Le choc
amoureux” reports that certain women feel sexual desire when they
iron the linen of their companion… It is rather characteristic
to see that today many women choose to offer to their “darling”
sexy underclothing…

How do you explain
that one could feel pleasure enduring pain?
Certain people need to experience a strong sensation to be sexually
stimulated, all is a question of threshold. Scourging is known since
Greek and Roman Antiquity like powerful stimulating the sexual heat,
this treatment belonged to the brothels menu during centuries…
But it is a question of personal threshold. What is voluptuous for certain
is unbearable for others. In addition, there is a challenge to overcome
the pain, and that returns an image of personal power, and courage…

The body becomes a toy
in the partners hands, pleasure ways could be unusual...

Which could be the
origins of fetishism?
The origins of fetishism dive deep roots in the personal history, in
emotional experiences. The majority of the children privilege a fetish
object whose contact reassures them, but they do not become fetishistic
for as much. It is more at the time of the first erotic agitations that
is built a mental context in which some objects become fetishes. Any
object which was in contact with loved and desired partner, or which
symbolizes him (her) because they evoke the desire is a potential fetish.
The fetish plays a part of anchoring, it brings back to a feeling, with
an erotic excitation, and if the person tends to self isolate , fetishism
develops and takes more or less importance. Cultural determinisms play
also an important part, an abject that seems erotic for certain leaves
others perfectly indifferent.

Does programs
of care to cure fetishism exist?
While seeking well, one must
be able to find some. There are for example associations which claim
to come to end from the fact that one names of the “addictions
to the sex”. The human beings are characterized by their adaptability,
and their aptitude to be learned. If it is admitted that fetishism is
a tendency which is acquired and discussed, it is possible also to be
released some…
Is it necessary to
cure fetishism? Is is a question of threshold?
Fetishism poses problem only if the person
cannot manage to live his sexuality without the fetish. It is generally
relational difficulties which lead people to want to liberate from their
fetishism. As of this moment, fetishism will be interpreted like a symptom,
while hitherto it was a behavior, a taste, a tendency. Sexology does
not cure one’s personality, but can help to better accept oneself
and reach balanced relationship between partners. The glance of the
others, the fear of exclusion are generally more frightening than fetishism…

What about commercial use of fetishism?
I am not a sociologist, I simply observe that commercial recovery standardizes
sex by treating it like a product for human consumption. The large merchant
advantage of fetishism is to make dream. We live in a world which, as
opposed to what one believes, does not facilitate dating, and even less
the meetings in love. The fetish then plays the part of a substitution
object… Early or late, it will however be necessary to cope with
reality.

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